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  <title>SMAPing in snow country</title>
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  <subtitle>SMAPing in snow country</subtitle>
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  <updated>2026-05-08T22:30:53Z</updated>
  <dc:date>2026-05-08T22:30:53Z</dc:date>
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    <title>RE: SMAPing in snow country</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Brian Andrew Campbell</name>
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    <updated>2015-02-18T21:11:14Z</updated>
    <published>2015-02-18T21:11:14Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Hi John,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A1: I think an important way to explain this to the students would be to empasize why measuring in an area just once is not great scientific method based experiementation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A2: Wait for snow melt before taking routine measurements.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Brian&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="quote-title"&gt;John Harlin:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="quote"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-content"&gt;I realize that SMAP measurements aren&amp;#39;t possible under snow. We&amp;#39;re on the side of a mountain in Switzerland.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q1: if we go to the valley below we can find bare ground. But we could probably only go there once. Is that worthwhile scientifically, or would it be purely a teaching experience? How credibly could we tell students that they&amp;#39;re actually helping?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q2: At some point this late winter or spring the snow go. But it might come back in a storm. Could we start doing measurements here at the first bare spot, or should we wait until the snow is most likely gone for good?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks,&lt;br /&gt;John Harlin&lt;br /&gt;Leysin American School&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Brian Andrew Campbell</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-02-18T21:11:14Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>SMAPing in snow country</title>
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    <author>
      <name>John Harlin</name>
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    <updated>2015-02-18T17:54:28Z</updated>
    <published>2015-02-18T17:54:28Z</published>
    <summary type="html">I realize that SMAP measurements aren&amp;#39;t possible under snow. We&amp;#39;re on the side of a mountain in Switzerland.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q1: if we go to the valley below we can find bare ground. But we could probably only go there once. Is that worthwhile scientifically, or would it be purely a teaching experience? How credibly could we tell students that they&amp;#39;re actually helping?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q2: At some point this late winter or spring the snow go. But it might come back in a storm. Could we start doing measurements here at the first bare spot, or should we wait until the snow is most likely gone for good?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks,&lt;br /&gt;John Harlin&lt;br /&gt;Leysin American School</summary>
    <dc:creator>John Harlin</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-02-18T17:54:28Z</dc:date>
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